Elge wrote: Zeon-Darksol wrote: XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Lol. They were pretty good gore movies. I could never watch them twice though. But I LOVED them the first time around
Yep
I noticed rob zombie likes showing off his wife's body in those movies to lol.
ALSO ELGE
YOUR FAIL
Those movies are amazing and so is his music. People stopped liking his music because the techno stuff is out of it basically. Its more like White Zombie which i love. But alot heavier. Listen to his song for Punisher Warzone, really heavy. You people dont like it because its something different. You could at least give it a chance. Or your complete failure elge.
You can't have an arguement without resorting to name calling, can you? When you defend something, you usually have to provide EVIDENCE. Calling them "different" is totally false. What are they different from? House of 1000 Corpses and The Devil's Rejects are gore porn movies. They rely too much on gross scares and sex to have any real substance or story to them. Maybe that's why so many ill-informed people like them. They don't know better.
Here's the difference between Rob Zombie's "Halloween" and John Carpenter's original, superior version:
In Zombie's version, Michael Myers is a troubled serial killer with a tormented past, abusive father, sexually promiscuous and otherwise uncaring mother, and a sister who doesn't give a damn. In summary, he's the epitome of the "quiet kid" you don't want to speak to in high school. Why is this bad? Because it's tired and cliche. It's been done before. Go watch Psycho if you don't believe me.
The original Michael Myers had no motive, no history, no troubled youth: he was pure, raw, visceral fear. He was a figurative monster. He was the superior Michael Myers.
I don't like Zombies' movies because they're "different" - they're not, broaden your library of movies. I hate his movies because they're just an extension of crap like Hostel.
You want a movie with blood, gore, but also with a heart behind it? Watch the first Saw. You want a movie with no substance, no passion, just a 2 hour ride of blood, violence, and softcore porn, watch a Zombie flick.
As for his music? Here's a general recap of most of his song: "3-4 minutes of psychedelic guitar riffs intertwined with nasally singing and inane lyrics about horses, the supernatural, or something equally obscure."
He's a great front man, too. I love the way he fires people from his band just because he feels like it.
You want good, American horror films or psychological thrillers? Jacob's Ladder, The Thing, The Shining, 1408, anything by David Lynch (Eraserhead, Inland Empire, Mulholland Drive, etc.), Se7en, Sunshine, 28 Days Later, Dawn of the Dead (original), the first Blair Witch Project (for which there is already a topic made), and on, and on.
So, nearly everyone loves tokyo gore police, but thats just straight through gore. So i have a question, why is house of a thosuand corpses or the devils rejects any different? They rely on gore and sex which makes them epic. That helps make a movie. Heres the plot.
House of a thousand corpses:
These kids writing a book stop at captian splauldings gore ride. They ride it and want to find DR. Satan. They go to a house with insane people. Then get murdered.
Devils Rejects:
The killers are now on the run, in a more realistic setting unlike the original.
ALSO
I love zombie flicks they are epic and gory. I love core.
I LOVE, AND BY THIS I MEAN I LOVE TOKYO GORE POLICE. IT IS EPIC AND ONE OF THE MOST GORRIEST AND MESSED UP THINGS YOU WILL EVER SEE!!!!
And i love the first saw. It has a story. I loved it. I loved saw 5 also, as one of the best. They both aren't just pure torcher and they actually have a storyline behind it, which unlike the other's stretch throughout the whole movie, instead of just being about ten minutes of the movie while the rest is torcher.
And by your standerts no i dont want good horror or phycological thrillers.
Good horror in my view is.
Friday the 13th
Nightmare on elm street
Halloween
Saw
House of a thousand corpses
Halloween the remake
The Shining
1408
28 days later
28 weeks later
dawn of the dead
Ok a few movies you like are in my list. Besides that i dont like any of your so called "good movies"
As for his music. Its epic. I like the horror music. Stop critizing him already because you are affraid of change.
As for this
In Zombie's version, Michael Myers is a troubled serial killer with a tormented past, abusive father, sexually promiscuous and otherwise uncaring mother, and a sister who doesn't give a damn. In summary, he's the epitome of the "quiet kid" you don't want to speak to in high school. Why is this bad? Because it's tired and cliche. It's been done before. Go watch Psycho if you don't believe me.
The original Michael Myers had no motive, no history, no troubled youth: he was pure, raw, visceral fear. He was a figurative monster. He was the superior Michael Myers.
The original was better. Im not saying it was worse. The original is by far The greatest horror movie ever made. As for the remake. No its not cliche. How many movies do you see where the kid stabs his father 16 times in the face? In real life the sister wouldnt care. Most likely the mother wouldn't care if she allowed it. Most likely the sister wouldnt care because she isnt the one getting beat. Its not cliche. Its real life scenario. ALSO ive seen pycho. I have a question. In phyco did his dad beat him, did he have a sister who didnt care, and did him mom not care about him? Well the mom was overly protective of everything. So he killed her, plain and simple. It never talks about his father, or any other family member he has besides his mother.
BTW
The devils rejects beat all of the following movies on your list.
Jacob's Ladder, 1408, Eraserhead, Inland Empire, Mulholland Drive, Se7en, Sunshine, 28 Days Later, the first Blair Witch Project
Ive seen most of them, and for the rest watched the trailors. Your problem with movies like rob zombie's is that your not a big enough gore fan. Or a fan of things such as short pop fiction novels. Or movies that dont get deep inside the characters brain where you can predect every one of his moves. It doesnt get to a point where you can almost feel sorry when the character dies. I dont feel like watching a movie like that when im watching a thriller or a horror movie. Freddy you didnt get in the characters mind's to much. You knew what they felt you could see them. You didn't care when they died though. If you were me, you actually would laugh when they died.
Or in the Devils rejects case smile to yourself through the whole movie, just enjoying every last momment of the gore.
If you couldn't notice i love gore. I love seing people get chopped in half. I love seing people get crushed to death. I love seing people get there faces cut of and worn by there wife. I love seing ottis make his artwork. I love everything about gore. Its why im going to love these movies and you people aren't.
with no substance, no passion,
OMG ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! That movie made me laugh and smile with a passion. I felt for the characters. At the end of the movie i felt bad when they died. I grew to love the characters. By the way alot of stuff happens in the first saw and the devils rejects. The first saw movie was basically a huge puzzle which is why i love it. Its not pure torcher like the rest. The devils rejects, just make me kinda sad at the end when they die, but it makes me smile to. They die so that they never get them. They take one last stand. They know they have no hope left. They take on last chance to kill a few of them. While the song freebird a amazing song was playing.
I love the characters. I almost wish they didnt die so that they could have another sequel. Oh by the way.
The Devils Rejects
7/10
On internet movie database which is what people rated it.
Heres the first review on the page for it.
8/10
This movie has some classic ingredients for a great horror movie. Interesting characters, some really vile gore scenes, bad language, unnecessary nudity, and some familiar faces; Leslie Easterbrook (from the Police Academy movies), Ken Foree (the original Dawn Of The Dead), 80's pop singer/actress E.G. Daily and Michael Berryman (The Hills Have Eyes) provide more than enough nostalgia for retro junkies, like myself.
The story isn't overly fast paced but the gore can be thick and pretty relentless and is at times implied rather than shown which I think adds to the experience. I really enjoyed Leslie Easterbrook as Mother Firefly (replacing Karen Black who was in the first movie, House Of 1000 Corpses). She does some wonderful overacting in her scenes, it's a shame she wasn't in it more, same goes for E.G. Daily who plays a sassy hooker. In fact everyone was great in their parts, let's face it this is not Shakespeare - this is a horror movie, I for one demand hammy over the top performances and a bit of camp! I don't want to give anything away but I will say my favourite scenes involved Mother Firefly and the sheriff, and Captain Spaulding and a mother and child. If you enjoyed House Of 1000 Corpses, this is a superior sequel in my mind and you wont be disappointed. If your idea of horror is a glossy PG-13 rated remake you might want to try weaning yourself onto this kind of movie with something a little less extreme.
House of a thousand corpses
5.6/10
This in my opinion is underated. Well considering it was popular enough to have a sequel this is underated.
Here is the second review. The first one gave it 6/10.
8/10
Let me say this right off that bat. If you're idea of a horror film is I know What You Did Last Summer and you consider Scream and The Exorcist to be the most shocking films ever made, this is not a film for you. If you havent seen I Spit on Your Grave, Evil Dead, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead or Last House on the Left, this is not a film for you. If you've never listened to "Living Dead Girl" or "Superbeast" this is not a film for you.
Now having said that, this is a film for me. It is a film for true horror fans, the kind that stay up and watch Dawn of the Dead and The Beyond, who know who Lucio Fulci and Dario Argento and George Romero are. This is a film that was meant to be seen by people like this and will only be enjoyed by people like this. This is not exactly mainstream stuff here. Only a small percentage of people enjoy this stuff, and for those people, this film is a true rivival of classic exploitive horror.
Rob Zombie has created a homage to 1970's exploitation/horror films, and he has been extremly successful in achieving that goal. The film borrows largely from Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Last House on the Left, with his own little bits of original demential thrown in and an assortment of other horror film references. The film tells the tale of four teenagers who are terrorized and tortured by a bizarre southern family living in a remote farmhouse in 1977. The film uses all sorts of camera tricks--negative colouring, split-screens and seemingly random inserts of grainy snuff-like footage of various S&M and gore images; the off-the-wall effect is similar to what Oliver Stone did in Natural Born Killers. The film is not about plot, or about characters. Its purpose is to shock and disturb, to serve no other function than to entertain through exploitation and disgusting and bizarre violence. Just as you think the limits of weirdness are approaching, Zombie takes the film a step farther, and before long you surrender yourself to the mercy of the film and just accept things for what they are. The film has the feeling of an out of control freight train being piloted by a madman and the climax of the film is truly bizarre. The reviewers who wrote the film off as overly-sadistic with little in the ways of character development, plot or suspence have come to see a different kind of film, perhaps more at home with titles like The Sixth Sense or Silence of the Lambs. The have no busineness debasing a great film like this.
Rob Zombie has created a film that is both a homage and derivative at the same time; most things in the film have been done before, in one shape or another, and the level of gore is a fraction of what was intended, due to its shameful R-rating. To see the inevitable Unrated Directors Cut on video is going to be a true horror experience.
But this film is something has hasnt been seen in decades and it has been made with the utmost care that only a true horror fan could provide. It is a film made by horror fans for horror fans, a true labor of love by Mr. Zombie, despite some flaws. If you arent sitting the theater going "hey, theres Bill Mosely from TCM 2!" or "hey, that shot is a homage to the cover of Evil Dead!" or "hey, he wears peoples skin like Leatherface!" then you probably arent meant to be seeing this film. But for those who are, the film is a true gem and a rarity; it is a kind of film that hasnt been seen on the screens in over twenty years and probably wont be for another twenty years. Get out there and enjoy this rare experience while you still can.
An instant cult-hit.
Grade: A
For true horror fans only. Everyone else just wont get it.
I have a question, did you get the plot for this movie really? If not listen to the lyrics for rob zombie's song Pussy Liquor. It explains the movie. Move reviews after that one seem to give it a 7-10/10
You like horror movies? Have you seen the original 1974 "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"? If not, do yourself a favor and go watch it, and then come back and treat yourself to Rob Zombies wonderful homage "House of 1000 Corpses". The film is all homage and humor, but it would be wrong to call it parody. The film is really lovingly done.
Now mind you, this isn't in the same class as movies like "Apocalypse Now" and "Citizen Kane". It is, however, still beautiful. The style is almost in overkill and is where most of the entertainment is derived from. The story is secondary. Like many a horror film, it's about a group of young people who go where they shouldn't and p*ss-off (I can't believe I had to censor this word) some creepy hicks. In this case they are looking for Doctor Satan, a local legend who might just be real. From there it follows the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" formula pretty closely, but far better than any of that films sequels ever did. The film is very inventive and keeps from being very boring or very predictable. I was able to guess at a few things, but then I watch a lot of horror films.
A real stand out is the use of color. The photography is surprisingly good for a horror effort. Another big reason to watch is Sid Haig who acted in many 70s classic exploitation efforts. The guy has always been fun to watch and is really funny here.
After this I'm really looking forward to Zombies's "The Devil's Rejects"
10/10 That review was. I honestly have to agree with this.
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